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June 29, 2005


Okay, maybe I missed it.

But why isn't the blogosphere running around with its hair on fire over this outrageously insane statement by Nancy Pelosi? Last time I checked, Karl Rove is basically a pollster for the President. Nancy Pelosi actually has a vote in the House, something Karl Rove lacks.

Yet there was a huge stink last week when Karl Rove slammed liberals - specifically speaking of the hard left variety of liberals - as being in favor of pie-in-the-sky treatment for terrorists, charging them with crimes in federal courts, rather than treating them as a military foe; on their side rather than on the U.S.' side in the war on radical Islamacism. So did he exaggerate in saying liberals cut that way? Was Rove right? Let's look at what Nancy Pelosi said.

Many of the detainees have been in U.S. custody since October 2001. Why have they been in custody for nearly four years without being charged? Why has so little been done to resolve the status of the detainees?

Got that? Charge them with a crime, or release them. There is a slight problem with that notion, in that if the prisoners are Enemy Prisoners of War and the Geneva Conventions protect them (something the Dems insist on) then it is illegal to try them, except in cases of crimes against humanity or other war crimes. Merely fighting against the U.S. isn't a crime, even though Ms. Pelosi thinks these inmates should be tried. One wonders what the charges should be... crossing a desert against the light? Unlawful tampering with cellphone materials? Failure to get a permit for that mortar?

Okay, so the Dems' senior leader in the house says we need to charge those Al Qaida fighters detained at Gitmo, or release them. That proves nothing, right? Admittedly, she isn't a totally representative sample, just an influential sample. She's just one person, right? Surely, other Dem leaders don't feel this way, do they?

Let's ask Ted Kennedy. He's a senior guy in the Senate. What say you, Tedski?:

We also need to make sure that the administration doesn't send these and future detainees to places unknown that are even more difficult to monitor.

FDCH Political Transcripts, June 15, 2005, Senate Judiciary Committee. Got that? We can't repatriate Al Qaida fighters to places where they might be tortured, and where the Senate can't keep track of their well being. Hmmm... I don't remember anything in the Constitution about "looking out for the well being of major league a**holes who would destroy this country," but perhaps it was tucked away behind a couple emanating penumbras. But then, that's just Ted, right? He's not the boss of me, or of the Dems on Senate Judiciary. Pat Leahy is. And Senator Leahy's statement for the record in the same hearing will surely clarify this statement, right? What say you, Pat?

The Administration also continues to defend its use of extraordinary rendition to transfer terrorism suspects in U.S. custody to the custody of countries where they are likely to be tortured, a patent violation of the Convention Against Torture.

Got that? You catch an Al Qaida fighter on the battlefield, you can't keep him unless you charge him with a crime, which is patently illegal under the Geneva Conventions. Nor can you repatriate him to his own country, which Senator Leahy insists is a patent violation of the Convention Against Torture.

Meanwhile, Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-W[B.G.]Va), the senior Dem on the Intelligence Committee, has this to say about Gitmo conditions: "horror stories' have emerged from the "scandalous' interrogation camp that the U.S. is operating in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.' The Hill May 10, 2005. If you disagree, just don't tell this right wing lapdog, which thinks conditions are pretty durned good, all considering. Keep in mind, Jay Rockefeller is *the* leading Dem on the Senate Intelligence Committee - he's the man with access to all the sensitive information. Yet he never bothered to look into Gitmo himself, and apparently disbelieved everything that the military told him. Evidently, he believes the NY Times and CNNi and MoveOn, but not an array of generals and intelligence professionals that passed before his committee... oh well, who are you going to believe... me, or your lying eyes?

When you look at the facts, Karl Rove was basically right. He shouldn't have tarred all liberals with the same brush - just the influential liberals in national leadership positions. There are plenty of honorable liberals who want to defend this country. It's just that very few of them serve in Congress.

Until the Democrats get serious about protecting the country, I cannot in good conscience vote for them. It's not that they disagree with President Bush about what the proper strategy is; it's that they carry on as if there wasn't even a problem. They are dangerous, and cannot be trusted to keep us safe, at least not at this point in time.

Except for Joe Lieberman. Him, I like.

Posted by Blackavar at June 29, 2005 11:00 PM | TrackBack
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If they are to be held the length of the Afghan war, it should be evident by now that any intelligence they had is years out of date.

So why "interrogate" them? It must be for recreation, since it can't be for information.

Posted by: Scorpio at July 2, 2005 04:41 PM

"Recreation"? Hello, Fallacious Argument! Long-time, no see! Is the Taliban still actively fighting US forces and Afghan forces in Afghanistan? If so, then the conflict isn't over, and it is hardly uncommon to continue to detain active combatants who would only return to the battle.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your self-righteous defense of active combatants, though. I'm sure that, once released, they'll be ever so thankful to you. You should send them your snail mail address so they can thank you in person. Fight the power!

Posted by: mns at July 4, 2005 10:26 PM
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